My Future in Mandarin
I'm finishing my University degree at the end of this year. It will probably conclude my formal Mandarin studies. I first wanted to go the China (specifically back to Beijing) to just mission around for a year or two. However, due to some change in plans within my family and friends, I've decided to remain in South Africa for at least one year, maybe two years. The reasons for this are because of the fact that most of friends are going to continue to studying and most of them I've been friends with since early highschool. The University I go to is in the same town I grew up in. So this place, Stellenbosch, has much sentimental value.
I figured, that University is a time, not a place. Therefore, I'm going to treasure my friends and the times spent with them for just a bit longer, before we all enter the big corporate world. China and future plans can always wait. Now, however this puts me in a bit of pickle. I've not studied Mandarin on my own... ever. Yes, I watch some tv series and visit tons of blogs and run Social Mandarin, but I don't think that's enough.
Our University, however, does have its own Confucius Institute apart from the Mandarin University Department, so I'll definitely be looking into that. I want to improve my speaking. That is my main focus now. My listening has improved a lot since watching TV series. The Confucius Institute here does have speaking classes.
However, I still want to learn more. How do you guys learn Mandarin? Those not in University? Do you guys use things like Rosetta Stone? Or use online sites? I'm definitely going to pick up my Anki usage.
On another note, I'm planning on studying an MPhil in Hypermedia for Language Learning next two years. My focus area will be Mandarin. So I'm going to see how I can improve some Mandarin learning techniques online. So keep your tabs on the site. I'll probably need some testers in the future. There is also a chance that I might get into a MediaLab research department here on campus that focuses on researching new tech and ways to improve new media. So, if I get into both, you'll definitely see trying to develop some apps and sites that improve Mandarin learning on the web. I might just change the way people learn Mandarin. ;P
My Chinese Textbooks for University
Check this video out. This is my first video blog post. I show you guys my textbooks that I use for university. I am a total newbie (新手) at video blogging. If you like it let me know, otherwise tell me how I can improve! Also, excuse my South African English accent, haha. If you have any other questions about how my classes work or the textbooks, please ask away!
P.S. - If you can't access Youtube, I'll upload to Youku if there is demand.
HSK Tests in my Future
My teacher gave us some HSK resources yesterday. Apparently there is a test taking place in October here in South Africa. Last year I took a mock HSK exam for level 1 and 2. Passed one easily, but with two I failed on the listening. The reading was easy. Did a quick test exam for level two again yesterday only for reading part. It was rather easy.
I got books for level 1, 2 and 3 now here with me. Going to start working through them. I want to go for level 3. I predict it might just be easier than I expect. My problem will be the listening. Will just have to watch a lot more Chinese series. Have any you guys written HSK tests before? How was it? And what level did you write?
Is HSK valuable in the end though? I reckon it is only for job applications and university entrance tests. Like how many people will ask me for my HSK level? Even so, I don't mind, this is a nice challenge and goal apart from my University work.
In other good news. I got 90% for a recent Mandarin test! Hooray!
Laowai Speaking Chinese on Youtube
I've stumbled on these videos on Youtube of Laowai showing their speaking skills. Some need some practice, but they all are admirable in what they do. It's actually interesting listening to some laowai, because their vocabulary will be limited, just like my own. Therefore it enables me understand a bit more. Yes, their pronunciation is not perfect, but it also gives me some insight into my own pronunciation, so I can improve it, by seeing the errors others they make. The fourth video actually features a guy I met through a mutual friend last year in Beijing.
I hope these inspired you, just like it did for me. I'm going to try and film some videos myself.
Learning Chinese through Watching TV
I've recently stepped my Chinese TV series watching, one partly because for my Mandarin homework we are working through book based on the TV series 香樟树. It is a bit old and extremely dramatic. People dying, raping, leaving each other and extremely bitchy family members. Not the best series, but if it helps with the homework, so it's great.
So, I've been thinking recently what's the best way to watch movies/tv in terms of subtitles.
1) Complete Chinese Immersion
They talk in Chinese and the subtitles are in Chinese. This is the way I'm currently watching my series, 'cause they don't have other options. Technically this would be great, as it allows for full immersion. I'm however, still struggling with my listening, so I'm reading more and following with the sounds as I watch. The subtitles are too fast so I have to rely on some sound to complete the rest.
2) Partial Chinese Immersion - Chinese Listening
This option, is a Chinese movie/series where they speak in Chinese, but the subtitles are in English. This, to me, is probably the worst, as you will most probably focus way too much on the English, and then not comprehend the Chinese speaking.
3) Partial Chinese Immersion - Chinese Reading
This option, is for instance when you watch an English movie/series, with Chinese subtitles. Basically movies adapted for a Chinese audience. I watched a movie, The Rebound, like this on a plane recently. It was actually interesting. I would definitely consider doing this more if I can find movies like this, as my English listening comprehension is high, I can concentrate on listening to the English and simultaneously read how people would translate the English into Chinese. At this moment in my Chinese, this was refreshing, 'cause I could understand most of the Chinese through English. Strange, but effective.
Are there other options I have missed? How do you watch movies/tv? I prefer the full immersion even if I don't understand everything, as it allows me to practice both my reading at listening at quicker speeds, but partial immersion via subtitles is also great if your level is a bit lower (listening, not reading).
There are indeed some other options, such as Chinese movies with English & Chinese subtitles, but that is just way too much info to process, making it kind of useless.
Laowai Chinese Music
I've been on a mission lately to find some Chinese tunes to listen to. There of course are plentiful, but I actually want to find some bands or artists I can relate to. Also, the tunes must me interesting in themselves. I'm not a big of fan of pop tunes, so I usually look for interesting bands. However, I recently found a more satisfying group of Chinese Music, those made by Laowai just like myself. These are favourite three I've found so far.
1) La Loupe
I literally found this duo yesterday and I already love it. Two graduates enjoying their time in Beijing. They play soothing folk. I love the harmony of their voices. Their lyrics are also easy to follow. I wouldn't mind being in their shoes. Sounds like so much fun. Check them out on Myspace.
Recommend Tune: Mang Ren
2) Albert Wolfe
Albert from LaoWai Chinese has been writing some tunes himself. Yes, the songs might a little poppy/mainstream or whatever it is, but his lyrics are also easy to follow and really catchy at that! His arrangements with pianos, guitars and the lot, adds depth to the well-crafted songs. I wouldn't be suprised if you hear these tunes on the radio (in China that is), it's just that good. He also gives the lyrics and chords so you can also learn it yourself! Check out the tunes right here
Recommend Tune: 我不是东西
3) 筋斗云
A group from Taiwan, with contains 3 Laowai. The song above is probably one the most beautiful songs I've ever heard, nevermind Chinese. The male lead singer also originally comes from South Africa (my home country) and was friends with my older brother back in primary school. This is a great inspiration for me to start writing my own tunes in Chinese as well. Wow. I just can't get over that tune. The rest of the band's tunes are more towards a rock/hip-hop vibe, but which are just as great.
Recommend Tune: the video above - 极光 (寂光)
Do you write Chinese tunes? Or do you know of any other Laowai doing the same? Recommend them please!
How long does it take to learn Chinese?
I follow quite a lot of language learning blogs, either people on their own missions or people who are just interested in language learning. One of these guys is Benny from Fluent in 3 Months, whom travels to various countries and immerses himself in them to learn the languages. His dedication is admirable, and I wouldn't mind doing what he does. Pretty awesome. His next goal is conversational Hungarian in 3 months. He chose Hungarian, because it is apparently one of the hardest languages to learn.
Firstly, it absolutely discourages me that he can learn the languages in 3 months (all his previous missions). However, this is obvious in my case, 'cause I have very few exposure to Chinese and can't immerse myself. I'm studying it at University at about 5 hours a week of class, plus about another 5-10 hours of extra homework afterwards. I've studied for 2 and a half years, and I'm only now reaching mild conversational fluency, but I guess my reading is a lot better, 'cause we focus on that a lot more.
You can perhaps blame my study method, however, I'm trying to console myself now, that Chinese is indeed a difficult language, if you come from English. The relative difference is immense and along with the characters, makes it double the effort. This makes sense when you look at the US Foreign Service categorizes Chinese in. It is in group four along with Arabic, Korean and Japanese. All of them share a non-roman alphabet.
In the comments posted on The Linguist , someone adds that it is impossible to learn Chinese within three months. I think so too. The difference is just too big: the characters, the tones, the pronunciation, getting to grips with amazingly simplistic grammar, most words having only two syllables and extremely homophonic nature of the language. However, I think when you get the grips of all these you can roll will Chinese and get used to it very quickly. I'm reaching that point. Although I don't live in China, I'm starting to see signs of Mandarin progression. I'm actually getting to spontaneous speech. It's fun!
Another factor that one should take into account, when it comes to language learning, is to consider, if you have learnt a second/foreign language before. I highlight this, because Mandarin is my first foreign language. I grew up with Afrikaans and English natively, but Mandarin is my first new language from scratch. I've since started looking at other languages, such as Na'vi (from the Avatar Movie), Dutch (very very similar to Afrikaans), Spanish and a bit Japanese & Korean very briefly. It came to my realization, that I would be able to learn new languages much easier, because I now understand the processes that I've been - and still am - going through when it comes to acquiring a new language. Thus, it gets easier with more experience. Thus, that is why Benny is having such success, having learnt 8+ languages.
However, if you had to think, given full immersion and lots of effort, how long it would take to reach fluency Chinese? Sometimes I think learning Chinese first is a blessing and a curse. If you stick through it, you can say that you've learned one of the hardest languages on the planet, however the curse: you need some dedication and a lot of it... and as a bonus, as is happening with me, I feel jaded in language learning.
I'm learning Chinese people. It's probably the furthest away from English as you can get. Besides those others in category 4: Arabic, Japanese and Korean, what will I challenge myself with next? Anything else is going to be so boring. Where are my characters? What is this roman alphabet? Where are my tones? Where is the history?
Yeah, yeah, some other languages are also unique, but nothing makes me more proud now to say that I can actually speak, read, listen and write a bit of Mandarin. 加油!加油!加油!
Holiday Time
[Note: I'm going to try and mix my Mandarin and English a bit more. Ultimately I want to start blogging in Chinese. So, expect some random sentences and words mixed in between posts from now on. If I make errors please correct me!]
So, I'm currently on my University holiday. 最近我和我的兄弟去了伊维萨 (Ibiza),这个地方有很多的夜总会,虽然太贵了,但是很好玩儿。Also, visited my older brother in London. However, I'm back in my hometown (家乡), and still have 3 weeks left before University starts again. Now what do I do with my Mandarin? As I posted earlier about my learning trap, I've not yet gotten into the habit of learning Chinese outside of University. However, I've got three massive readings to summarize for the first week back at class. So, I'll just have to start working. I like what Greg said in my previous post, is that one should just knuckle down. I'm still skipping some purely Chinese blog posts, just 'cause I'm too lazy, thinking I'll come back to them later. Screw that. I'll have to work through them to learn. For now, first I have to do my Mandarin 作业. Oh yeah, I got 78% for my first semester in 3rd year. So happy! Going to push it more!
反正,在伊维萨我看了很多的中文纹身,很有意思,但是他们不知道汉字的意思,所以我告诉他们。我觉得中文的纹身很美,但是很多人不明白自己的纹身。我将来可能得到一个纹身,比如"想入非非"或者"心潮澎湃",都是成语。你有没有一个纹身?
Watch out for the learning trap!
I've recently found myself in a new predicament. My Mandarin classes have stopped since early May due to exams. So, for the most of the time, I studied for other subjects and so, but I never spent time on Mandarin each day like I normally do during the semester. Yes, I read blogs and check out Social Mandarin every day, but I've fallen into the learning trap. I find all these great resources, but I never take the time to actually work with them. I think I'm doing something productive, finding resources and sharing them, but I'm just glancing them over, not taking them in.
I would like to ask, how do you guys get the motivation to study, if you're not a University student? I've recently made a conscious efforts to read Chinese blogposts/sites completely through, even if it takes some concentration I don't normally give outside of class.
Do you have a Chinese learning routine? Is there a conscious effort each day, or do you just let the mood take you? I'm finishing with Mandarin next semester, so I'm trying to figure out logical steps from there. For now, I'm sad and glad, that our teacher gave us a mountain of Chinese homework to give in on the first Friday coming back from holiday.
